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		<title>By: Lion of Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion of Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My husband thought it was מה doubled.&quot;

i think most (all?) 4- and 5-letter &quot;roots&quot; consist of doubled syllables</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My husband thought it was מה doubled.&#8221;</p>
<p>i think most (all?) 4- and 5-letter &#8220;roots&#8221; consist of doubled syllables</p>
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		<title>By: Leora</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-779</link>
		<dc:creator>Leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,  thanks so much for your notes.

My husband thought it was מה doubled. Thanks for the verses; more to look up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,  thanks so much for your notes.</p>
<p>My husband thought it was מה doubled. Thanks for the verses; more to look up!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (Balashon)</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave (Balashon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The etymology of  התמהמה is interesting. Klein says it comes from the root מהה (or מהמה) which means &quot;to linger, tarry&quot;, and is related to the Arabic mahah, which means &quot;slow walk, delay&quot;. Kaddari mentions the same two possibilities of roots.

Steinberg, however, in his Milon HaTanach (which preceded Klein and Kaddari by many years) disagrees with the linguists who according to him &quot;invented&quot; the root מהה. He says no such root exists in Hebrew. He says the root of התמהמה is מה, as in the Hebrew word &quot;ma&quot; - &quot;what?&quot;. The connection is that as a person &quot;turns here and there, asking &#039;what&#039;&quot; - he is delayed. He brings a number of verses as proof of this (Tehilim 119:60, Yeshayahu 29:9, Shoftim 3:26). 

I don&#039;t know if his theory is more accurate than the others, but it probably makes it easier to remember...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The etymology of  התמהמה is interesting. Klein says it comes from the root מהה (or מהמה) which means &#8220;to linger, tarry&#8221;, and is related to the Arabic mahah, which means &#8220;slow walk, delay&#8221;. Kaddari mentions the same two possibilities of roots.</p>
<p>Steinberg, however, in his Milon HaTanach (which preceded Klein and Kaddari by many years) disagrees with the linguists who according to him &#8220;invented&#8221; the root מהה. He says no such root exists in Hebrew. He says the root of התמהמה is מה, as in the Hebrew word &#8220;ma&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;what?&#8221;. The connection is that as a person &#8220;turns here and there, asking &#8216;what&#8217;&#8221; &#8211; he is delayed. He brings a number of verses as proof of this (Tehilim 119:60, Yeshayahu 29:9, Shoftim 3:26). </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if his theory is more accurate than the others, but it probably makes it easier to remember&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leora</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oy, Akismet (stops comment spam for WordPress) seemed to be swallowing up some of Lion of Zion&#039;s comments.  I deleted a few of the duplicates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy, Akismet (stops comment spam for WordPress) seemed to be swallowing up some of Lion of Zion&#8217;s comments.  I deleted a few of the duplicates.</p>
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		<title>By: Leora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 10:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, nice to hear from you again!

LOZ, thanks for helping me learn...I changed it to 12th.  Still not sure where to look up more on the 13 principles, but will try Habakuk next.

This is an example of how one can learn mis-information on the internet (like from me, my post was already in Google with incorrect info).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, nice to hear from you again!</p>
<p>LOZ, thanks for helping me learn&#8230;I changed it to 12th.  Still not sure where to look up more on the 13 principles, but will try Habakuk next.</p>
<p>This is an example of how one can learn mis-information on the internet (like from me, my post was already in Google with incorrect info).</p>
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		<title>By: Lion of Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-771</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion of Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you made this my favorite hebrew word:
http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/05/most-difficult-hebrew-word-to-pronounce.html#links</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you made this my favorite hebrew word:<br />
<a href="http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/05/most-difficult-hebrew-word-to-pronounce.html#links" rel="nofollow">http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/05/most-difficult-hebrew-word-to-pronounce.html#links</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lion of Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion of Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ll try again. 

&quot;af al pi&quot; is there. but it&#039;s the 12th, not the 13th, principle.

(the rambam himself did not write the ani maamins, although they are based on his hakdamah to perek helek. and there he does use the  יתמהמה phrase, with an alliteration to habakuk)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll try again. </p>
<p>&#8220;af al pi&#8221; is there. but it&#8217;s the 12th, not the 13th, principle.</p>
<p>(the rambam himself did not write the ani maamins, although they are based on his hakdamah to perek helek. and there he does use the  יתמהמה phrase, with an alliteration to habakuk)</p>
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		<title>By: Lion of Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-766</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion of Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, it seems like a comment of mine was swallowed up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, it seems like a comment of mine was swallowed up?</p>
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		<title>By: Lion of Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion of Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEORA:

it is the 12th principle. the &quot;af al pi&quot; part is in that ani maamin. (incidentally, the exact formulation of the ani maamins is not by the rambam, although it is based on the 13 principles he established in his hakdamah to perek helek. there he does use the יתמהמה, which is a citation from habakuk 2:3).

btw, thanks for making this my favorite word:
http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/05/most-difficult-hebrew-word-to-pronounce.html#links</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEORA:</p>
<p>it is the 12th principle. the &#8220;af al pi&#8221; part is in that ani maamin. (incidentally, the exact formulation of the ani maamins is not by the rambam, although it is based on the 13 principles he established in his hakdamah to perek helek. there he does use the יתמהמה, which is a citation from habakuk 2:3).</p>
<p>btw, thanks for making this my favorite word:<br />
<a href="http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/05/most-difficult-hebrew-word-to-pronounce.html#links" rel="nofollow">http://agmk.blogspot.com/2008/05/most-difficult-hebrew-word-to-pronounce.html#links</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lion of Zion</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/05/learning-with-a-5th-grader/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion of Zion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JACK:

i think you would face some serious competition from me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JACK:</p>
<p>i think you would face some serious competition from me</p>
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