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	<title>Comments on: Leah and Rachel</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Lennhoff</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5933</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Lennhoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what did you think of the essay Leora?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what did you think of the essay Leora?</p>
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		<title>By: The Jewish Side</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5862</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jewish Side</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The face really does look sad, and I just realized that she&#039;s holding tissues. Great watercolor! 

I had forgotten about that part that Leah davened to have a daughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The face really does look sad, and I just realized that she&#8217;s holding tissues. Great watercolor! </p>
<p>I had forgotten about that part that Leah davened to have a daughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. S.</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5852</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I didn&#039;t express myself very well. I certainly didn&#039;t mean to put down either Leah or Rachel!

Rather, I was trying to say that although Leah suffers early on (as poignantly shown in your painting), she eventually comes into her own -  as Larry puts it, &quot;from the perspective of their legacies,&quot; but I think also in her own lifetime. And not just as her children&#039;s mother. She becomes her husband&#039;s partner in his life&#039;s work - like Sarah/Avraham and Rivka/Yitzchak.

You see, I agree with you that the sisters aren&#039;t in competition. Instead, I believe that they complement each other and serve different roles. As you will recall, Yaakov is transformed into Yisrael shortly after Rachel&#039;s death. Thus, Rachel is loved by &quot;Yaakov&quot; - i.e. the private individual -  but Leah is the perfect wife for &quot;Yisrael&quot; - i.e. the father of the nation. In other words, there&#039;s room in Yaakov/Yisrael&#039;s life 
for both Rachel and Leah - just at different stages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I didn&#8217;t express myself very well. I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to put down either Leah or Rachel!</p>
<p>Rather, I was trying to say that although Leah suffers early on (as poignantly shown in your painting), she eventually comes into her own &#8211;  as Larry puts it, &#8220;from the perspective of their legacies,&#8221; but I think also in her own lifetime. And not just as her children&#8217;s mother. She becomes her husband&#8217;s partner in his life&#8217;s work &#8211; like Sarah/Avraham and Rivka/Yitzchak.</p>
<p>You see, I agree with you that the sisters aren&#8217;t in competition. Instead, I believe that they complement each other and serve different roles. As you will recall, Yaakov is transformed into Yisrael shortly after Rachel&#8217;s death. Thus, Rachel is loved by &#8220;Yaakov&#8221; &#8211; i.e. the private individual &#8211;  but Leah is the perfect wife for &#8220;Yisrael&#8221; &#8211; i.e. the father of the nation. In other words, there&#8217;s room in Yaakov/Yisrael&#8217;s life<br />
for both Rachel and Leah &#8211; just at different stages.</p>
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		<title>By: Leora</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5849</link>
		<dc:creator>Leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for looking at my watercolor, Gail. I find it easier to copy a watercolor by a great artist, as I copied and then modified a Winslow Homer painting (she wasn&#039;t crying in the original but sewing) than to paint from real life.  Because real life has way more information.  Winslow Homer already eliminated a lot of information, making it easier to do the painting.  And one ends up appreciated how masterful a watercolorist he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for looking at my watercolor, Gail. I find it easier to copy a watercolor by a great artist, as I copied and then modified a Winslow Homer painting (she wasn&#8217;t crying in the original but sewing) than to paint from real life.  Because real life has way more information.  Winslow Homer already eliminated a lot of information, making it easier to do the painting.  And one ends up appreciated how masterful a watercolorist he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Gail</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5843</link>
		<dc:creator>Gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work.  What I particularly notice (since I struggle so much with this) is the believable proportions and solid feel of the figure behind the clothing. The facial expression too.  Very nice job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work.  What I particularly notice (since I struggle so much with this) is the believable proportions and solid feel of the figure behind the clothing. The facial expression too.  Very nice job!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Lennhoff</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5838</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Lennhoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I also always used to feel sorry for Leah, but the truth is, Rachel - not Leah - is the tragic figure &lt;/I&gt;

From the perspective of their legacies, perhaps.  But in terms of their personal lives, Rachel is the beloved one and Leah is the neglected one, and that fact keeps coming through.  I think it is an interesting use of mirroring as a literary technique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I also always used to feel sorry for Leah, but the truth is, Rachel &#8211; not Leah &#8211; is the tragic figure </i></p>
<p>From the perspective of their legacies, perhaps.  But in terms of their personal lives, Rachel is the beloved one and Leah is the neglected one, and that fact keeps coming through.  I think it is an interesting use of mirroring as a literary technique.</p>
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		<title>By: Leora</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5834</link>
		<dc:creator>Leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, it&#039;s printing.  Will read tonight or on Shabbat.

Mrs. S., can&#039;t we just understand each of their pains and their glories without needing to put down one or the other?  In my painting, I was relating to Leah&#039;s early pain of not being the beloved or not being able to choose a husband who loves her for herself.  But I do appreciate that Leah did have quite a bit to be proud of as a mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, it&#8217;s printing.  Will read tonight or on Shabbat.</p>
<p>Mrs. S., can&#8217;t we just understand each of their pains and their glories without needing to put down one or the other?  In my painting, I was relating to Leah&#8217;s early pain of not being the beloved or not being able to choose a husband who loves her for herself.  But I do appreciate that Leah did have quite a bit to be proud of as a mother.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. S.</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5833</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also always used to feel sorry for Leah, but the truth is, Rachel - not Leah - is the tragic figure. After all, Rachel has only two sons, dies young in childbirth, and is buried all by herself on the side of the road. In contrast, Yaakov builds his family - Beit Yisrael (the House of Israel) - with Leah, and she is buried together with him for eternity. Also, not only did Leah have 6 sons to Rachel&#039;s 2, but Leah is the mother of both Levi and Yehudah. In other words, Leah - not Rachel - is the mother of both the kehunah (the priesthood) as well as the malchut (the monarchy) of David, including the Mashiach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also always used to feel sorry for Leah, but the truth is, Rachel &#8211; not Leah &#8211; is the tragic figure. After all, Rachel has only two sons, dies young in childbirth, and is buried all by herself on the side of the road. In contrast, Yaakov builds his family &#8211; Beit Yisrael (the House of Israel) &#8211; with Leah, and she is buried together with him for eternity. Also, not only did Leah have 6 sons to Rachel&#8217;s 2, but Leah is the mother of both Levi and Yehudah. In other words, Leah &#8211; not Rachel &#8211; is the mother of both the kehunah (the priesthood) as well as the malchut (the monarchy) of David, including the Mashiach.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Lennhoff</title>
		<link>http://www.leoraw.com/blog/2008/12/leah-and-rachel/#comment-5831</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Lennhoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at this shiur from Rabbi Ebbin of YI of Stamford about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yistamford.org/downloads/Dudaim.doc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dudaim&lt;/a&gt;.It focuses on the Rachel - Leah relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this shiur from Rabbi Ebbin of YI of Stamford about the <a href="http://www.yistamford.org/downloads/Dudaim.doc" rel="nofollow">dudaim</a>.It focuses on the Rachel &#8211; Leah relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Leora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, glad you are settled enough in your new job that you can read parsha posts.

The duadinum seem to be a few pesukim back from the Leah giving birth to Dina... now, of course, your short comment got me more curious.  I&#039;ll read more on Shabbat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, glad you are settled enough in your new job that you can read parsha posts.</p>
<p>The duadinum seem to be a few pesukim back from the Leah giving birth to Dina&#8230; now, of course, your short comment got me more curious.  I&#8217;ll read more on Shabbat.</p>
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